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Old 02-24-2009, 12:44 AM
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This whole thing about the ratings brings up another topic - What about internet cafes that have these M / M15+ / MA15+ and above games? Should the restrictions on the games limit to what sort of clients these stores have? Should the stores enforce the age restrictions upon younger generations?

I know for a fact that where I work every once in a while, a parent will come in, drop their kid off and then leave for the majority of the day leaving either myself or one of the other staff to look after them. Should I be the one held responsible for what the child access on the system?
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:23 AM
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I know for a fact that where I work every once in a while, a parent will come in, drop their kid off and then leave for the majority of the day leaving either myself or one of the other staff to look after them. Should I be the one held responsible for what the child access on the system?
That depends on what kind of a place you work at. Is it a place that people should just drop their kids off and let them have at it?

I don't really see internet cafes as a place to drop the kids and leave them there, yes there are obviously adults there running it, but I don't think you really have to right to complain about what they see there short of pornography and other extremes. It should be a safe enough place in general but, if anything, any problems that arise from that are the fault of the parent that decides to leave their child in that enviornment.
Not to mention the technicalities of what has to happen is the child/minor is being disruptive enough to necessitate removal from the store.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:12 AM
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I'm guessing that since the ratings restrictions in Australia apply to purchasing games that once the game is purchased (presumably for an adult) who accesses that game is up to whomever made the purchase. I'm guessing that all Internet cafes have signs up stating that they are not responsible for the content choices of their customers, and that any restrictions are the responsibility of the customer. I've never used an Internet cafe (why should I when I have wifi at home?) so I'm not certain what procedures are in place. I would guess that there would be a standard liability waiver you'd have to sign to even use any of the cafe's machines.

I think that if a parent thinks so little of what their child does that they'd just drop the little tykes off at an Internet cafe instead of a qualified babysitter (hell, an unemployed aunt would be better than nothing) have absolutely no right to complain if their children then use the net access at that cafe to get into things they shouldn't see. Unless I'm getting paid to watch a kid, what that kid does is none of my business. Seems like common sense to me.

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Old 02-24-2009, 06:19 AM
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I would agree but its up to the customer to use their discretion? dosen't work very well when a child is 8 or 10 and knows that a game is 15+ but they would just play it anyway. Thats the only problem. The staff well its up to them i guess i amazingly lack an opinion on this
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Mishy lacking an opinion? Wow. I guess that's the end of the internet.

By signing a liability waiver before using a cafe's machines, a parent absolves the cafe's owners of any wrongdoing their children may commit while using those machines. The cafe employees are not babysitters.
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This whole thing about the ratings brings up another topic - What about internet cafes that have these M / M15+ / MA15+ and above games? Should the restrictions on the games limit to what sort of clients these stores have? Should the stores enforce the age restrictions upon younger generations?

I know for a fact that where I work every once in a while, a parent will come in, drop their kid off and then leave for the majority of the day leaving either myself or one of the other staff to look after them. Should I be the one held responsible for what the child access on the system?
The answer is both yes and no.

First off, does it say anywhere in your job description that you are a child-care specialist in any way, shape or form? I'll bet it doesn't (any previous experience as such wont matter, its all about the job description).

Secondly, as your company would have likely had to go through the tedious EULA and other tick-box agreements that the games came with, it is your responsibility to make sure that minors who pay to have access to these systems cannot access the over-aged content (you being the responsible adult in this case).

Thirdly (and here's the clincher) if that kid goes and does something stupid and says he did it on a pc game first. He, or someone else gets injured, and a lawsuit comes about - it will come down to "where did you play this pc game, and what age rating is it?" If it comes back to your store, and its above his age rating... your liable.

Never take the chance. Screw the lazy parent, the kid and greedy lawyers, Cover your own arse and get some sort of ID system in place (log book, ID etc).

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I wonder if you could get a password thing that protects mature content and you can only get the password from an employee (proving age and having it changed once a day)? Would that work?
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Secondly, as your company would have likely had to go through the tedious EULA and other tick-box agreements that the games came with, it is your responsibility to make sure that minors who pay to have access to these systems cannot access the over-aged content (you being the responsible adult in this case).
I'm pretty sure most EULAs simply cover the creator/publisher's ass. They rarely have any sort of age requirement written in them (Okay, so I've read like one, but still...) and rating systems are just recommendations. Atleast over here.

As for my opinion, legislation and restrictions are epic fail. I've played violent video games since I was 3 and I turned out just fine.
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