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Case Study: Why Guilds Fall Apart

Recently I wrote an article about how to Build and Maintain a Successful Guild, so this article is intended to provide the other side of the equation by discussing some main reasons why guilds fail.

Voting Details: 70 positive, 15 negative
Submitted: 2583 days ago
Submitted by: Hades-LotD
Category: Gaming
Tagged as hot: 2583 days ago

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From: Xeomyles on 22-Aug-2008 at 02:52am

Nice. Great things for any current or aspiring guild leader to sink his/her teeth into

(Edited by Xeomyles on 22-Aug-2008 at 05:52am: Minor edits)

From: Goblinss on 04-Aug-2008 at 08:59pm

Excellent article Hades!


From: Hades-LotD on 29-Jun-2008 at 09:59am


From: Tyrlien on 29-Mar-2008 at 04:37pm

Awesome article! Good solid reasons why guilds fail. Adding to that, guild members who don't or won't check guild websites to keep up on happenings can add to the pressures. After all, a guild is a communal effort.


From: Drunkenfairy on 28-Dec-2007 at 07:58am

Good insight into guild mechanics!


From: Luna on 11-Aug-2007 at 12:33pm

Hades knows all about guild mechanics. Great read.


From: Landaren on 01-Aug-2007 at 05:03pm

Great post


From: Saurcon on 01-Aug-2007 at 02:59pm

Nice job Hades. I think you're overall understanding of Guilds and the many many years of you leading LotD makes you probably the most experienced Guild GM I'm aware of. A lot of people are not even aware of your experience writing articles for some of the major gaming web sites either. It's been an honor to be in your ranks the past two decades.


From: Saurcon on 01-Aug-2007 at 02:58pm

Nice job Hades. I think you're overall understanding of Guilds and the many many years of you leading LotD makes you probably the most experienced Guild GM I'm aware of. A lot of people are not even aware of your experience writing articles for some of the major gaming web sites either. It's been an honor to be in your ranks the past two decades.


From: Hades-LotD on 30-Jul-2007 at 07:36am

Thanks for the comments. FYI I've always said that LotD rebuilds a lot of its membership for each new game we play. That said, I have to work very hard to rebuild 80% new membership in each game while training leaders and avoiding some of these very same pitfalls.

I talk a little more about this in the Revolution G podcast, and its Episode 6 "Guilds and Games" on the news here.


From: Zeratek on 27-Jul-2007 at 05:13pm

Very well writen I learned some what about making a good guild from your articles.


From: Niir-LotD on 27-Jul-2007 at 08:31am

Valuable information here.


From: headdie on 27-Jul-2007 at 02:00am

Very Interesting and makes some good points, from experience the focus of the guild is one of the biggest issues relating to guild collapse.

My Old Counterstrike clan was originally set up by two players who wanted a casual play group, one fixed training session and maybe a max of 2 matches a week and happy enough in Enemy Down div 3, which suited me fine and the first gen. of players reflected this.

Then the clan started taking on a small number of new players around the time of Valve going Steam after the Co-Creators decided it would be good to push the clan a little higher on the rankings. the introduction of these new players caused significant friction as they wanted to go top division, but the majority of members didn't want to or hadn't the time to make that kind of commitment.

Eventually the founders by a combination of real world commitments and getting pissed off with the friction stepped down and became part time, the 'hardcore' players replaced them, but had no respect from the majority of the clan and struggled to organise anything.

To my knowledge the clan has fizzled, died and stayed dead. Just one anecdote that proves the article


From: Pandorax on 26-Jul-2007 at 06:30pm

I would think that all guilds should make a case study of Case Study: Why Guilds Fall Apart! This was thoughtfully written, and those guilds who read this study will benifit from doing so, like continueing on. Truely a guide to guild building. Hades I for one thank you and commend you for your wisdom!!

Pandorax


From: Hades-LotD on 26-Jul-2007 at 01:15pm

It is here on guildcafe, under Favorites...Most Popular. Its currently the #1 user submitted article.


From: tattle on 26-Jul-2007 at 11:41am

Very nice read! would have to agree with almost all your points there. Wish I could find your article on building and maintaining a successful guild, I guess I'll have to delve a bit deeper once i get home from work.

Again great article!


From: Hades-LotD on 26-Jul-2007 at 09:49am

triple post not intentional.

(Edited by Hades-LotD on 26-Jul-2007 at 11:50am: Minor edits)

From: Hades-LotD on 26-Jul-2007 at 09:47am

double post not intentional.

(Edited by Hades-LotD on 26-Jul-2007 at 11:51am: Minor edits)

From: Hades-LotD on 26-Jul-2007 at 09:46am

This isn't meant as a fly catcher to cover every situation, just some of the bigger mistakes I've seen over the years. Feel free to add comments and I'll update it from time to time.